Comments on: Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill Will Design Tallest Building in the World, Kingdom Tower in Saudi Arabia http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/ Green design & eco innovation for a better world Wed, 22 May 2013 16:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: TDW http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/comment-page-1/#comment-349469 TDW Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:35:55 +0000 http://inhabitat.com/?p=283626#comment-349469 And how useful are the top 20 or so floors? It may be very high, but at some point a distinction should be made between usable space and decorative spire. It's the King's money, so he can do it, but there are so many more humane things to do with the money that a building like this shouldn't even come into the discussion. And how useful are the top 20 or so floors? It may be very high, but at some point a distinction should be made between usable space and decorative spire. It’s the King’s money, so he can do it, but there are so many more humane things to do with the money that a building like this shouldn’t even come into the discussion.

]]> By: ScholesScoresGoals http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/comment-page-1/#comment-348828 ScholesScoresGoals Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:48:24 +0000 http://inhabitat.com/?p=283626#comment-348828 "Dubai shows how the Muslim world can peacefully co-exist with the West." By not being very Muslim at all, lol. "I was taught that one of the signs the end of days is coming is that man starts to compete and takes pride in building taller and taller buildings." See here (point 2): http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/002.sbt.html#001.002.048 There are other slight variations of wording but the consensus of the portent is the same. Given the state of the Peninsula not even 100 years ago, it does sound ominous. “Dubai shows how the Muslim world can peacefully co-exist with the West.”

By not being very Muslim at all, lol.

“I was taught that one of the signs the end of days is coming is that man starts to compete and takes pride in building taller and taller buildings.”

See here (point 2):

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/002.sbt.html#001.002.048

There are other slight variations of wording but the consensus of the portent is the same. Given the state of the Peninsula not even 100 years ago, it does sound ominous.

]]> By: john rb http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/comment-page-1/#comment-348822 john rb Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:55:22 +0000 http://inhabitat.com/?p=283626#comment-348822 At least they've provided a nice deck for people to jump from. On a different note, the Burj Khalifa looks better. The UAE will build a larger tower. At least they’ve provided a nice deck for people to jump from.

On a different note, the Burj Khalifa looks better. The UAE will build a larger tower.

]]> By: orien2v2 http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/comment-page-1/#comment-348808 orien2v2 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:04:46 +0000 http://inhabitat.com/?p=283626#comment-348808 I'm a muslim, not very holy, but if not mistaken I was taught that one of the signs the end of days is coming is that man starts to compete and takes pride in building taller and taller buildings. So I'm not sure where arab stands. Religious, or not religious? Note on the 4th photo, I have to pay a lot to stay there and I still have to take 300 steps of stairs? lol Also the 5th photo looks like the Enterprise just crashed into it. I’m a muslim, not very holy, but if not mistaken I was taught that one of the signs the end of days is coming is that man starts to compete and takes pride in building taller and taller buildings. So I’m not sure where arab stands. Religious, or not religious?

Note on the 4th photo, I have to pay a lot to stay there and I still have to take 300 steps of stairs? lol

Also the 5th photo looks like the Enterprise just crashed into it.

]]> By: AnimSyntax http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/comment-page-1/#comment-348800 AnimSyntax Mon, 08 Aug 2011 05:52:13 +0000 http://inhabitat.com/?p=283626#comment-348800 So Saudi Arabia is having a pissing contest with the UAE? I guess it is all about who has the biggest stick. So Saudi Arabia is having a pissing contest with the UAE? I guess it is all about who has the biggest stick.

]]> By: tmock http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/comment-page-1/#comment-348540 tmock Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:01:01 +0000 http://inhabitat.com/?p=283626#comment-348540 Learning lessons from Dubai... If ever there was an urban area anywhere on Earth that epitomized the excesses of the boom years between 2002 and 2007, it has to be Dubai. A sign that this large-scale land development extravaganza was veering to unsustainable excess should have been Dubai’s decision to erect a 200-story building that would make it the world’s tallest structure. Other telltale signs should have been Dubai’s determination to build the world’s largest man-made artificial islands as well as a major ski resort in the desert – all developed with dwindling oil reserves, and without a source of sustainable food, fresh water or energy production for its burgeoning class-based society. http://www.triplepundit.com/2010/09/will-abu-dhabi-create-sustainable-dubai/ Sustainable Land Development Initiative Learning lessons from Dubai…

If ever there was an urban area anywhere on Earth that epitomized the excesses of the boom years between 2002 and 2007, it has to be Dubai. A sign that this large-scale land development extravaganza was veering to unsustainable excess should have been Dubai’s decision to erect a 200-story building that would make it the world’s tallest structure. Other telltale signs should have been Dubai’s determination to build the world’s largest man-made artificial islands as well as a major ski resort in the desert – all developed with dwindling oil reserves, and without a source of sustainable food, fresh water or energy production for its burgeoning class-based society.
http://www.triplepundit.com/2010/09/will-abu-dhabi-create-sustainable-dubai/

Sustainable Land Development Initiative

]]> By: newdomino http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/comment-page-1/#comment-348499 newdomino Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:16:51 +0000 http://inhabitat.com/?p=283626#comment-348499 Or they are motivated by ego. I think that's more likely in this case, rather than "heart." Or they are motivated by ego. I think that’s more likely in this case, rather than “heart.”

]]> By: Flyinarage http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/comment-page-1/#comment-348476 Flyinarage Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:12:37 +0000 http://inhabitat.com/?p=283626#comment-348476 No, it's not a good question. I hope you will agree, that humans are motivated by more than logic, sometimes they are lead by heart. PC No, it’s not a good question.

I hope you will agree, that humans are motivated by more than logic, sometimes they are lead by heart.

PC

]]> By: lazyreader http://inhabitat.com/adrian-smith-gordon-gill-announces-it-will-design-the-mile-high-kingdom-tower-in-dubai/comment-page-1/#comment-348162 lazyreader Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:32:40 +0000 http://inhabitat.com/?p=283626#comment-348162 It's a good question. Do you need it to be that tall. The current tallest building has a surplus of apartments they've yet to sell. And I doubt the success of the project overall. Dubai is more liberal than Saudi Arabia. Dubai shows how the Muslim world can peacefully co-exist with the West. Residents enjoy freedom of religion. Although proselytizing is not allowed, members of any religion can get government land grants to build their own houses of worship. In fact many of the investors in Dubai happen to be Israeli. The closest thing to Dubai in the U.S. is Las Vegas. Both are doubling in population about every ten years. Both can credit that growth to minimal land-use regulation and resulting low construction costs. Both are seeing outlandish building designs aimed at attracting tourists. Dubai is a little more outlandish, possibly because of the subsidized architecture. Any high rise above about 80 stories has to be subsidized, the added structural cost can’t be justified by the rents on the extra floor space. It’s a good question. Do you need it to be that tall. The current tallest building has a surplus of apartments they’ve yet to sell. And I doubt the success of the project overall. Dubai is more liberal than Saudi Arabia. Dubai shows how the Muslim world can peacefully co-exist with the West. Residents enjoy freedom of religion. Although proselytizing is not allowed, members of any religion can get government land grants to build their own houses of worship. In fact many of the investors in Dubai happen to be Israeli. The closest thing to Dubai in the U.S. is Las Vegas. Both are doubling in population about every ten years. Both can credit that growth to minimal land-use regulation and resulting low construction costs. Both are seeing outlandish building designs aimed at attracting tourists. Dubai is a little more outlandish, possibly because of the subsidized architecture. Any high rise above about 80 stories has to be subsidized, the added structural cost can’t be justified by the rents on the extra floor space.

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