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	<title>Comments on: Earth Day, China, and the Trouble with Leading by Example</title>
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		<title>By: herve leger contrast bandage dress</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/earth-day-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-333376</link>
		<dc:creator>herve leger contrast bandage dress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 21:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your personal commitment to passing the message around had been rather powerful and has truly empowered somebody just like me to attain their ambitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your personal commitment to passing the message around had been rather powerful and has truly empowered somebody just like me to attain their ambitions.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/earth-day-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-79711</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe America should sign the Kyoto Protocol before talking crap about china. Per person, the chinese can&#039;t even close to overweight American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe America should sign the Kyoto Protocol before talking crap about china. Per person, the chinese can&#8217;t even close to overweight American.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Madrigal</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/earth-day-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-79559</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Madrigal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very thoughtful article and a compelling argument for personal responsibility and global solutions.  Living in a rural area it has been inconvenient to recycle, and we did only the easy things.  A month ago my husband and I cast aside our lazy ways and took the plunge.  Not only are we recycling all our household trash, but we really committed to drive, buy, use, and consume less.   Honestly?  It feels great to be part of the solution and at least contributing less to the problem.  It fascinates me how we all want to blame &#039;somebody else&#039; and expect them to make the hard sacrifices so we don&#039;t have to do so.  Americans can demonize other countries all we want, but  we certainly have no moral authority on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very thoughtful article and a compelling argument for personal responsibility and global solutions.  Living in a rural area it has been inconvenient to recycle, and we did only the easy things.  A month ago my husband and I cast aside our lazy ways and took the plunge.  Not only are we recycling all our household trash, but we really committed to drive, buy, use, and consume less.   Honestly?  It feels great to be part of the solution and at least contributing less to the problem.  It fascinates me how we all want to blame &#8216;somebody else&#8217; and expect them to make the hard sacrifices so we don&#8217;t have to do so.  Americans can demonize other countries all we want, but  we certainly have no moral authority on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: greeentech</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/earth-day-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-79535</link>
		<dc:creator>greeentech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you guys have it just right, but once again media has failed us.  China is not the problem, Wal-mart and Microsoft and GM and Monsanto and Rupurt Murdock are the problem: we are the problem.  We let U.S. companies grow so powerful in voice through our politics that the industries have more of a say they we the people do.  Like most large ships, it takes a while to for the behemouths to turn.  We will never be green with the power structure the way it is.  We let the &quot;American way&quot; get corrupted, but never stopped pushing the &quot;American way of life&quot; onto the rest of the world.  Countries that formally had no major enviormental pollution, nuclear arms, obesity or clear cutting of forest or fields of poppies as their primary cash crop, rampid political corruption, and santioned torture. . . are all over the place now.  Looks like we succeeded.  We need to wake up, change captains, and stop being a lazy and greedy society.  If we want to know what other countries are doing and why, we just need to look in the mirror.  The good sense and tech systems needed to solve todays problems have been around for years and they don&#039;t require an earth day.  The sence of urgency is nowhere in the news.  Facts on how bad the problem is are posotioned on page 2 or shown as a one sided footnote before the commercial for a new SUV.  Everyday is earthday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you guys have it just right, but once again media has failed us.  China is not the problem, Wal-mart and Microsoft and GM and Monsanto and Rupurt Murdock are the problem: we are the problem.  We let U.S. companies grow so powerful in voice through our politics that the industries have more of a say they we the people do.  Like most large ships, it takes a while to for the behemouths to turn.  We will never be green with the power structure the way it is.  We let the &#8220;American way&#8221; get corrupted, but never stopped pushing the &#8220;American way of life&#8221; onto the rest of the world.  Countries that formally had no major enviormental pollution, nuclear arms, obesity or clear cutting of forest or fields of poppies as their primary cash crop, rampid political corruption, and santioned torture. . . are all over the place now.  Looks like we succeeded.  We need to wake up, change captains, and stop being a lazy and greedy society.  If we want to know what other countries are doing and why, we just need to look in the mirror.  The good sense and tech systems needed to solve todays problems have been around for years and they don&#8217;t require an earth day.  The sence of urgency is nowhere in the news.  Facts on how bad the problem is are posotioned on page 2 or shown as a one sided footnote before the commercial for a new SUV.  Everyday is earthday!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/earth-day-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-79523</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ zyde
well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ zyde<br />
well said.</p>
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		<title>By: zyde</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/earth-day-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-79495</link>
		<dc:creator>zyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the thing about China is that they are behind. It was a somewhat an undeveloped country, and their goal was to create a country as close to the USA they see on TV as possible. I personally think that if any undeveloped country wants to be development at this moment, their effect on Earth will be the same as China now. We shouldn&#039;t just criticise them, instead, we should let them know the alternate way, and set a example, because China will be watching us on TV, and know what we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the thing about China is that they are behind. It was a somewhat an undeveloped country, and their goal was to create a country as close to the USA they see on TV as possible. I personally think that if any undeveloped country wants to be development at this moment, their effect on Earth will be the same as China now. We shouldn&#8217;t just criticise them, instead, we should let them know the alternate way, and set a example, because China will be watching us on TV, and know what we do.</p>
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		<title>By: rosscap</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/earth-day-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-79493</link>
		<dc:creator>rosscap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This view of China as the West\&#039;s \&quot;evil twin\&quot; is a direct example of the fact the we in the West are not seriously ready to face up to reality.  It is our consumption-heavy, externally driven character that laid the tracks for the course that China is now on.  Until we actually accept this as a community, stop pointing the finger elsewhere, we are as much (or more) of the global problem than China is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This view of China as the West\&#8217;s \&#8221;evil twin\&#8221; is a direct example of the fact the we in the West are not seriously ready to face up to reality.  It is our consumption-heavy, externally driven character that laid the tracks for the course that China is now on.  Until we actually accept this as a community, stop pointing the finger elsewhere, we are as much (or more) of the global problem than China is.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/earth-day-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-79484</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pollan&#039;s  argument reminded me of a TV ad by the World Wildlife Fund (I think) from a long time ago- in which a person is shown leaving his tap running while brushing teeth (which strikes you at first as inconsequential). The camera then zooms out to show two people doing the same. Then Ten. And so on. The ad really struck me as how positive (or negative) a minor action could be, when it gets scaled through a group behavior. That said, we as individuals are entrenched within a larger system that is inherently resistant to change. Take the example of a recent post on Inhabitat about a LEED certified parking structure, which elicited a (understandably) lively discussion. The bottom line? LEED works to make the system better, but doesnt do much to push the boundaries of what is really possible- or eliciting radical changes. 

While Pollan is right in citing China, the fact is that there are many evil twins right here in the US itself. There is an emerging &#039;green&#039; movement all right, but it will be a while before it truly becomes &#039;mainstream&#039;. The issue of China (and also India) is a vexing one- as sovereign countries they have all the right to argue for development and modern facilities- and it is the same path as the US and other Western countries followed.  While the SUV, and not the Prius is the dominant mode of personal transport here, it is difficult to preach to others about going green. 

One factor is that the Chinese growth is largely being driven by Western demands- and this is where the US consumers can coax a change in their practices. But while the dollar value of the product remains the bottom line, the consequences are largely hidden and transferred in invisible ways, in the form of environmental changes. The US consumer shopping at WalMart may be happy (I confess to being one of them at times) for the low prices, the repurcussions are right now being felt by the factory workers in China, and people who live around those areas. Thousands of those factories are being built, and will become the key drivers of environmental change, whose ramifications will only be known in the coming decades. Which brings me back to the WWF ad. The point here is that bottom up change is truly possible, as Pollan shows, but it might be too little, and too slow. A thousand LEED certfied parking structures may not be helpful if we are almost crossing the tipping point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pollan&#8217;s  argument reminded me of a TV ad by the World Wildlife Fund (I think) from a long time ago- in which a person is shown leaving his tap running while brushing teeth (which strikes you at first as inconsequential). The camera then zooms out to show two people doing the same. Then Ten. And so on. The ad really struck me as how positive (or negative) a minor action could be, when it gets scaled through a group behavior. That said, we as individuals are entrenched within a larger system that is inherently resistant to change. Take the example of a recent post on Inhabitat about a LEED certified parking structure, which elicited a (understandably) lively discussion. The bottom line? LEED works to make the system better, but doesnt do much to push the boundaries of what is really possible- or eliciting radical changes. </p>
<p>While Pollan is right in citing China, the fact is that there are many evil twins right here in the US itself. There is an emerging &#8216;green&#8217; movement all right, but it will be a while before it truly becomes &#8216;mainstream&#8217;. The issue of China (and also India) is a vexing one- as sovereign countries they have all the right to argue for development and modern facilities- and it is the same path as the US and other Western countries followed.  While the SUV, and not the Prius is the dominant mode of personal transport here, it is difficult to preach to others about going green. </p>
<p>One factor is that the Chinese growth is largely being driven by Western demands- and this is where the US consumers can coax a change in their practices. But while the dollar value of the product remains the bottom line, the consequences are largely hidden and transferred in invisible ways, in the form of environmental changes. The US consumer shopping at WalMart may be happy (I confess to being one of them at times) for the low prices, the repurcussions are right now being felt by the factory workers in China, and people who live around those areas. Thousands of those factories are being built, and will become the key drivers of environmental change, whose ramifications will only be known in the coming decades. Which brings me back to the WWF ad. The point here is that bottom up change is truly possible, as Pollan shows, but it might be too little, and too slow. A thousand LEED certfied parking structures may not be helpful if we are almost crossing the tipping point.</p>
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