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	<title>Comments on: IS IT GREEN?: Clorox Green Works</title>
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		<title>By: Gramma</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-395699</link>
		<dc:creator>Gramma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 02:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried green works toilet bowl cleaner and was amazed at the great results. Nothing else would remove the awful rust stains.   Glad you made green works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried green works toilet bowl cleaner and was amazed at the great results. Nothing else would remove the awful rust stains.   Glad you made green works.</p>
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		<title>By: cleancathy</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-251689</link>
		<dc:creator>cleancathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it\&#039;s worth, here\&#039;s my two cents...Wouldn\&#039;t it be great if the non-Clorox brands of \&quot;green cleaning products\&quot; actually worked as well as the Green Works line?  I try to be as environmentally friendly as possible--no phosphates, conservation, sustainable, bio-degradable compost and garbage bags, canvas grocery bags etc., but...I draw the line at spending my very hard earned, non-profit employment derived money on products that simply don\&#039;t work or leave a nasty residue in my kitchen or on my laundry.  And let\&#039;s be realistic, non-profit is a tax status, not a business plan, end even those of us that do work in non-profit want to get every penny we can possibly earn into our bank account as fast as possible for investing in our company to be able to continue to serve our clients with a service or product they expect--there\&#039;s nothing wrong with the Clorox company turning a profit and developing a greener product with less petro-chemicals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it\&#8217;s worth, here\&#8217;s my two cents&#8230;Wouldn\&#8217;t it be great if the non-Clorox brands of \&#8221;green cleaning products\&#8221; actually worked as well as the Green Works line?  I try to be as environmentally friendly as possible&#8211;no phosphates, conservation, sustainable, bio-degradable compost and garbage bags, canvas grocery bags etc., but&#8230;I draw the line at spending my very hard earned, non-profit employment derived money on products that simply don\&#8217;t work or leave a nasty residue in my kitchen or on my laundry.  And let\&#8217;s be realistic, non-profit is a tax status, not a business plan, end even those of us that do work in non-profit want to get every penny we can possibly earn into our bank account as fast as possible for investing in our company to be able to continue to serve our clients with a service or product they expect&#8211;there\&#8217;s nothing wrong with the Clorox company turning a profit and developing a greener product with less petro-chemicals!</p>
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		<title>By: melaboo</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-208630</link>
		<dc:creator>melaboo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,,, I would love to know what soap you use when you clean... Did you know that &quot;soap&quot; can be toxic too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,,, I would love to know what soap you use when you clean&#8230; Did you know that &#8220;soap&#8221; can be toxic too?</p>
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		<title>By: Shadewriter</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-207552</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadewriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the grocery store, Ralph&#039;s, last night (not Whole Foods, who, unfortunately closes too early for me to shop) and needed new laundry detergent.  Despite loving the smell of Cheer, I&#039;d decided to finally take the plunge and go more sustainable.  I saw Green Works, thought, at that late hour, that it looked green, and bought it.  

Today I read their label.  Talk about hedging their legal bets.  They say, &quot;We believe that natural laundry products should: Give you the cleaning and stain-removal power you expect from Clorox; Be made with plant-and mineral- based ingredients; Use biodegradable ingredients; Never be tested on animals.&quot;

What it DOES NOT say is that their product does any of that.  That&#039;s Greenwashing at its most duplicitous.  I am taking back my Green Works product to Ralph&#039;s today and asking for my money back.  I&#039;m tired of big corporations putting their money where their souls should be and I&#039;m not gonna take it anymore.

Also, &quot;Pragmatist&quot; above says we should worry about how it cleans BEFORE we worry about how green it is, that its greeness is secondary.    That attitude is EXACTLY why we&#039;re in the environmental mess we&#039;re in.  At some point, sooner or later, likely within this century (aka, within the lives of our children and our grandchildren), the planet will reach a tipping point and slide down a slippery slope toward being unliveable by humans.  

We live in the Garden of Eden, our mission is to take care of it.  Pull your head out, Pragmatist, while you still have air you can breathe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the grocery store, Ralph&#8217;s, last night (not Whole Foods, who, unfortunately closes too early for me to shop) and needed new laundry detergent.  Despite loving the smell of Cheer, I&#8217;d decided to finally take the plunge and go more sustainable.  I saw Green Works, thought, at that late hour, that it looked green, and bought it.  </p>
<p>Today I read their label.  Talk about hedging their legal bets.  They say, &#8220;We believe that natural laundry products should: Give you the cleaning and stain-removal power you expect from Clorox; Be made with plant-and mineral- based ingredients; Use biodegradable ingredients; Never be tested on animals.&#8221;</p>
<p>What it DOES NOT say is that their product does any of that.  That&#8217;s Greenwashing at its most duplicitous.  I am taking back my Green Works product to Ralph&#8217;s today and asking for my money back.  I&#8217;m tired of big corporations putting their money where their souls should be and I&#8217;m not gonna take it anymore.</p>
<p>Also, &#8220;Pragmatist&#8221; above says we should worry about how it cleans BEFORE we worry about how green it is, that its greeness is secondary.    That attitude is EXACTLY why we&#8217;re in the environmental mess we&#8217;re in.  At some point, sooner or later, likely within this century (aka, within the lives of our children and our grandchildren), the planet will reach a tipping point and slide down a slippery slope toward being unliveable by humans.  </p>
<p>We live in the Garden of Eden, our mission is to take care of it.  Pull your head out, Pragmatist, while you still have air you can breathe.</p>
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		<title>By: Toms</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-179496</link>
		<dc:creator>Toms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of  all on the front label thay claim 99% natural, on the ingrediants thay claim 99% water. What is the other 1%.

To answer Max Dricolls Green Seal question. Green seal is a group of washington DC attorneys who have turned a just cause into a profit center. Their certification is literally for sale and I am told their biggest contributor is the oil industry. Over 60 % of the greenseal cleaning products contain petro chemicals.

We need a truly non profit, affordable certifiaction process that maintains high standards for rating products on their ingrediants and the effect on the environment and not on the effect to their pocketbooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of  all on the front label thay claim 99% natural, on the ingrediants thay claim 99% water. What is the other 1%.</p>
<p>To answer Max Dricolls Green Seal question. Green seal is a group of washington DC attorneys who have turned a just cause into a profit center. Their certification is literally for sale and I am told their biggest contributor is the oil industry. Over 60 % of the greenseal cleaning products contain petro chemicals.</p>
<p>We need a truly non profit, affordable certifiaction process that maintains high standards for rating products on their ingrediants and the effect on the environment and not on the effect to their pocketbooks</p>
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		<title>By: maxdriscoll</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-177832</link>
		<dc:creator>maxdriscoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article states that there is no industry standard for establishing the make-up of a green household cleaning product - this is wrong.  Green Seal, an independent third party environmental standards organization, has a standard, GS-8, for household cleaning products.  Companies can submit their product for testing and certification if it meets their strict environmental criteria.  Is it green?  The answer is easier than Clorox would make it out to be - get is certified under Green Seal GS-8.  Done and done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article states that there is no industry standard for establishing the make-up of a green household cleaning product &#8211; this is wrong.  Green Seal, an independent third party environmental standards organization, has a standard, GS-8, for household cleaning products.  Companies can submit their product for testing and certification if it meets their strict environmental criteria.  Is it green?  The answer is easier than Clorox would make it out to be &#8211; get is certified under Green Seal GS-8.  Done and done!</p>
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		<title>By: john difool</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-177451</link>
		<dc:creator>john difool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 22:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>since i do not live in a septic tank, i have never used that toxic stuff. warm soapy water and a rag and/or brush does it for me. that is green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>since i do not live in a septic tank, i have never used that toxic stuff. warm soapy water and a rag and/or brush does it for me. that is green.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Larsen</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-177424</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the simple answer is &quot;yes&quot;, why is there a need to seek the &quot;rub&quot;. No product is eco-perfect. All products have a &quot;rub&quot;. Why can&#039;t we celebrate the fact that for every Green Works product purchase, one less petro-based product is sold? That&#039;s a big win for planet earth.

The more the green thought leaders promote the &quot;rub&quot; the easier it is for the mass market of consumers to just not do anything. Ms. Lee writes about the success of products and bottom line. If Clorox sells 1 million units and makes money, guess what, they keep doing it. If they sell 1 million units and make no money, they stop. If they sell 10 units, they stop. The goal for any consumer products company is to sell its product. That&#039;s the fundamental definition of a sustainable business - one that can pay its people and its suppliers. That&#039;s actually a good thing and should be applauded.

Eco-progress is the goal. There is no eco-perfect. It does not exist. I applaud Clorox for bringing the alternative to the mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the simple answer is &#8220;yes&#8221;, why is there a need to seek the &#8220;rub&#8221;. No product is eco-perfect. All products have a &#8220;rub&#8221;. Why can&#8217;t we celebrate the fact that for every Green Works product purchase, one less petro-based product is sold? That&#8217;s a big win for planet earth.</p>
<p>The more the green thought leaders promote the &#8220;rub&#8221; the easier it is for the mass market of consumers to just not do anything. Ms. Lee writes about the success of products and bottom line. If Clorox sells 1 million units and makes money, guess what, they keep doing it. If they sell 1 million units and make no money, they stop. If they sell 10 units, they stop. The goal for any consumer products company is to sell its product. That&#8217;s the fundamental definition of a sustainable business &#8211; one that can pay its people and its suppliers. That&#8217;s actually a good thing and should be applauded.</p>
<p>Eco-progress is the goal. There is no eco-perfect. It does not exist. I applaud Clorox for bringing the alternative to the mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: Pragmatist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pragmatist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The really important questions remain unanswered. Let&#039;s cut the green washing (pun intended) love fest for just a second and instead focus on the important issue. We don&#039;t buy cleaners to benefit nature, we buy cleaners to clean. Anything else is entirely secondary.

So, the real question is: How well does Clorox Green Works products clean in comparison to other cleaning products? If we can determine that they clean as well or better than other products, then we can worry about how green they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The really important questions remain unanswered. Let&#8217;s cut the green washing (pun intended) love fest for just a second and instead focus on the important issue. We don&#8217;t buy cleaners to benefit nature, we buy cleaners to clean. Anything else is entirely secondary.</p>
<p>So, the real question is: How well does Clorox Green Works products clean in comparison to other cleaning products? If we can determine that they clean as well or better than other products, then we can worry about how green they are.</p>
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		<title>By: doroshcu</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-177371</link>
		<dc:creator>doroshcu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out Patagonia and read Let My People Go Surfing!!  Businesses can remodel their way of thinking to include the environment and Social aspects and continue to be successful and this from a clothing company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Patagonia and read Let My People Go Surfing!!  Businesses can remodel their way of thinking to include the environment and Social aspects and continue to be successful and this from a clothing company.</p>
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		<title>By: jahg8r</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-177333</link>
		<dc:creator>jahg8r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that it would be nice if the company were a &quot;cradle to cradle operation,&quot; it is the fact that it is a bleach company that has made Green Works so successful.  Environmentally friendly cleaning products have been around for a long time, but the vast majority of consumers have chosen products like Chlorox because they trust them to clean.  It doesn&#039;t do any good for a company to be green if consumers aren&#039;t buying the product.  The Chlorox name has done a great deal to convince people to give green a try.  So while it&#039;s likely they wouldn&#039;t have kept the line if it weren&#039;t successful, it&#039;s also likely that the line wouldn&#039;t have been as successful if it didn&#039;t come from a known bleach company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that it would be nice if the company were a &#8220;cradle to cradle operation,&#8221; it is the fact that it is a bleach company that has made Green Works so successful.  Environmentally friendly cleaning products have been around for a long time, but the vast majority of consumers have chosen products like Chlorox because they trust them to clean.  It doesn&#8217;t do any good for a company to be green if consumers aren&#8217;t buying the product.  The Chlorox name has done a great deal to convince people to give green a try.  So while it&#8217;s likely they wouldn&#8217;t have kept the line if it weren&#8217;t successful, it&#8217;s also likely that the line wouldn&#8217;t have been as successful if it didn&#8217;t come from a known bleach company.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Larsen</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-177326</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Larsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great question is raised quietly in the article about Clorox Green Works &quot;Is it Green&quot;. At the very end of the article Ms. Lee, the author, points out that Clorox is &quot;driven by the success of their products and the bottom line&quot;.

As a consumer products company, owned by stockholders, what other definition of success is there? Without the sales of its products, Clorox would cease to exist. Without putting dollars on the bottom line, Clorox becomes a non-profit, of no value to shareholders in the existing Return on Investment way of thinking (think of your 401k or IRA).

I would argue the primary responsibility of every consumer products company is to sell its products. It&#039;s important to appreciate what I have come to call the &quot;displacement theory&quot; of green product purchases. For every purchase of GreenWorks, one less bottle of a fully petro-chemical based product is purchased. There is no cleaner thatt is &quot;eco-perfect&quot; unless you grow your own fruit and make your own cleaners from the vinegars that you make from some sort of green heat source at your home. Given that reality, Clorox&#039; Green Works represents significant eco-progress toward what may eventually become full displacement of all petro based cleaners. Wouldn&#039;t that be a fine day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great question is raised quietly in the article about Clorox Green Works &#8220;Is it Green&#8221;. At the very end of the article Ms. Lee, the author, points out that Clorox is &#8220;driven by the success of their products and the bottom line&#8221;.</p>
<p>As a consumer products company, owned by stockholders, what other definition of success is there? Without the sales of its products, Clorox would cease to exist. Without putting dollars on the bottom line, Clorox becomes a non-profit, of no value to shareholders in the existing Return on Investment way of thinking (think of your 401k or IRA).</p>
<p>I would argue the primary responsibility of every consumer products company is to sell its products. It&#8217;s important to appreciate what I have come to call the &#8220;displacement theory&#8221; of green product purchases. For every purchase of GreenWorks, one less bottle of a fully petro-chemical based product is purchased. There is no cleaner thatt is &#8220;eco-perfect&#8221; unless you grow your own fruit and make your own cleaners from the vinegars that you make from some sort of green heat source at your home. Given that reality, Clorox&#8217; Green Works represents significant eco-progress toward what may eventually become full displacement of all petro based cleaners. Wouldn&#8217;t that be a fine day!</p>
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		<title>By: ajsp</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-177318</link>
		<dc:creator>ajsp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any company needs to be driven by the success of their products and the bottom line. A business that can&#039;t make enough money to stick around isn&#039;t a sustainable business. Environmentalists need to find ways to work with mainstream business, not dismiss them for being mainstream or profit-driven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any company needs to be driven by the success of their products and the bottom line. A business that can&#8217;t make enough money to stick around isn&#8217;t a sustainable business. Environmentalists need to find ways to work with mainstream business, not dismiss them for being mainstream or profit-driven.</p>
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		<title>By: russ</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-177123</link>
		<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought coconut oil came from the harvested nuts - does it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought coconut oil came from the harvested nuts &#8211; does it not?</p>
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		<title>By: earthsaver</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/is-it-green-clorox-green-works/comment-page-1/#comment-177118</link>
		<dc:creator>earthsaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Cradle to Cradle and sustainable foresight end of the spectrum, lots of great green news for EcoLogic Solutions. http://ecologicsolutions.com/pdf/ELSImprovements809.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Cradle to Cradle and sustainable foresight end of the spectrum, lots of great green news for EcoLogic Solutions. <a href="http://ecologicsolutions.com/pdf/ELSImprovements809.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://ecologicsolutions.com/pdf/ELSImprovements809.pdf</a></p>
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