Comments on: LILYPAD: Floating City for Climate Change Refugees http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/ Green design & eco innovation for a better world Wed, 22 May 2013 16:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: harmonyanonymous97 http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-379289 harmonyanonymous97 Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:27:17 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-379289 I don't think that this is a solution to climate change; it's only an escape route from it. Besides, how about wastes? Humans produce every kind of waste - plastic, paper, even our excretions.... I don’t think that this is a solution to climate change; it’s only an escape route from it. Besides, how about wastes? Humans produce every kind of waste – plastic, paper, even our excretions….

]]> By: jdoherty http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-371179 jdoherty Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:20:26 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-371179 While the Earth has always endured natural climate change variability, we are now facing the possibility of irreversible climate change in the near future. The increase of greenhouse gases in the Earth?s atmosphere from industrial processes has enhanced the natural greenhouse effect. This in turn has accentuated the greenhouse ?trap? effect, causing greenhouse gases to form a blanket around the Earth, inhibiting the sun?s heat from leaving the outer atmosphere. This increase of greenhouse gases is causing an additional warming of the Earth?s surface and atmosphere. A direct consequence of this is sea-level rise expansion, which is primarily due to the thermal expansion of oceans (water expands when heated), inducing the melting of ice sheets as global surface temperature increases. Forecasts for climate change by the 2,000 scientists on the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) project a rise in the global average surface temperature by 1.4 to 5.8°C from 1990 to 2100. This will result in a global mean sea level rise by an average of 5 mm per year over the next 100 years. Consequently, human-induced climate change will have ?deleterious effects? on ecosystems, socio-economic systems and human welfare.At the moment, especially high risks associated with the rise of the oceans are having a particular impact on the two archipelagic states of Western Polynesia: Tuvalu and Kiribati. According to UN forecasts, they may be completely inundated by the rising waters of the Pacific by 2050.According to the vast majority of scientific investigations, warming waters and the melting of polar and high-elevation ice worldwide will steadily raise sea levels. This will likely drive people off islands first by spoiling the fresh groundwater, which will kill most land plants and leave no potable water for humans and their livestock. Low-lying island states like Kiribati, Tuvalu, the Marshall Islands and the Maldives are the most prominent nations threatened in this way.“The biggest challenge is to preserve their nationality without a territory,” said Bogumil Terminski from Geneva. The best solution is continue to recognize deterritorialized states as a normal states in public international law. The case of Kiribati and other small island states is a particularly clear call to action for more secure countries to respond to the situations facing these ‘most vulnerable nations’, as climate change increasingly impacts upon their lives. While the Earth has always endured natural climate change variability, we are now facing the possibility of irreversible climate change in the near future. The increase of greenhouse gases in the Earth?s atmosphere from industrial processes has enhanced the natural greenhouse effect. This in turn has accentuated the greenhouse ?trap? effect, causing greenhouse gases to form a blanket around the Earth, inhibiting the sun?s heat from leaving the outer atmosphere. This increase of greenhouse gases is causing an additional warming of the Earth?s surface and atmosphere. A direct consequence of this is sea-level rise expansion, which is primarily due to the thermal expansion of oceans (water expands when heated), inducing the melting of ice sheets as global surface temperature increases.
Forecasts for climate change by the 2,000 scientists on the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) project a rise in the global average surface temperature by 1.4 to 5.8°C from 1990 to 2100. This will result in a global mean sea level rise by an average of 5 mm per year over the next 100 years. Consequently, human-induced climate change will have ?deleterious effects? on ecosystems, socio-economic systems and human welfare.At the moment, especially high risks associated with the rise of the oceans are having a particular impact on the two archipelagic states of Western Polynesia: Tuvalu and Kiribati. According to UN forecasts, they may be completely inundated by the rising waters of the Pacific by 2050.According to the vast majority of scientific investigations, warming waters and the melting of polar and high-elevation ice worldwide will steadily raise sea levels. This will likely drive people off islands first by spoiling the fresh groundwater, which will kill most land plants and leave no potable water for humans and their livestock. Low-lying island states like Kiribati, Tuvalu, the Marshall Islands and the Maldives are the most prominent nations threatened in this way.“The biggest challenge is to preserve their nationality without a territory,” said Bogumil Terminski from Geneva. The best solution is continue to recognize deterritorialized states as a normal states in public international law. The case of Kiribati and other small island states is a particularly clear call to action for more secure countries to respond to the situations facing these ‘most vulnerable nations’, as climate change increasingly impacts upon their lives.

]]> By: tongonwilson http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-362795 tongonwilson Sun, 20 Nov 2011 02:08:57 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-362795 they dont look that big...what if a whale shark rammed into it? or what happens during a typhoon storm? they dont look that big…what if a whale shark rammed into it? or what happens during a typhoon storm?

]]> By: NouraAlsuwaidi http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-356584 NouraAlsuwaidi Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:41:42 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-356584 First let’s question our self why do we need these kinds of "cities"! Isn’t there any place for people to live? Why are we harming the aquatic environment? Don’t we have something called environmental urban planning! Why are we ignoring it! While doing that we are destroying thousand of aqua lives and we are creating an imbalance in the nature. Haven’t we had enough from harming the environment? And I’m not really sure why do we need it from the beginning, is it really worth it... Don’t we consider if this project is economical to be built or not while we are recovering from the damage happened after the financial crisis! “Producing its own energy” how can we guarantee that it will indeed! What about the food and water! Isn’t it a waste of money to transfer the human needs using ships! What about 50,000 human wastes! It’s nice to have a new different place to live in but it should be economical! First let’s question our self why do we need these kinds of “cities”! Isn’t there any place for people to live? Why are we harming the aquatic environment? Don’t we have something called environmental urban planning! Why are we ignoring it! While doing that we are destroying thousand of aqua lives and we are creating an imbalance in the nature. Haven’t we had enough from harming the environment? And I’m not really sure why do we need it from the beginning, is it really worth it…

Don’t we consider if this project is economical to be built or not while we are recovering from the damage happened after the financial crisis!

“Producing its own energy” how can we guarantee that it will indeed!

What about the food and water! Isn’t it a waste of money to transfer the human needs using ships! What about 50,000 human wastes!

It’s nice to have a new different place to live in but it should be economical!

]]> By: ajdorsey http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-344534 ajdorsey Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:19:31 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-344534 I will be more impressed when we actually build one of these things. lol designs are cool, finding the funding is something else. I will be more impressed when we actually build one of these things. lol designs are cool, finding the funding is something else.

]]> By: echaa http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-344032 echaa Thu, 30 Jun 2011 03:09:13 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-344032 hey, so what were the refugees should eat???...fish???...it will be extinct if often eaten right?? hey, so what were the refugees should eat???…fish???…it will be extinct if often eaten right??

]]> By: feline74 http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-343917 feline74 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:54:21 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-343917 Marshall Savage, in his book The Millennial Project, suggested that a floating city could use OTEC (Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion) plants to generate electricity. OTEC's inputs are warm surface water (as a side effect, the surrounding ocean would be cooled) and cold water from near the sea floor (useful for cooling the city itself). The outputs are the electricity and cool sea water containing nutrients brought up from the ocean bottom; the latter can be used to feed mariculture-grown sea life which can be eaten or exported. That's two of the concerns people have expressed here (feeding the occupants and quality of the surrounding seas). Storm surge and tsunami safety can be dealt with by designing the floats to double as wave energy generators (I forget who came up with that idea, sorry). Marshall Savage, in his book The Millennial Project, suggested that a floating city could use OTEC (Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion) plants to generate electricity. OTEC’s inputs are warm surface water (as a side effect, the surrounding ocean would be cooled) and cold water from near the sea floor (useful for cooling the city itself). The outputs are the electricity and cool sea water containing nutrients brought up from the ocean bottom; the latter can be used to feed mariculture-grown sea life which can be eaten or exported.

That’s two of the concerns people have expressed here (feeding the occupants and quality of the surrounding seas). Storm surge and tsunami safety can be dealt with by designing the floats to double as wave energy generators (I forget who came up with that idea, sorry).

]]> By: baoooab http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-199582 baoooab Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:01:20 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-199582 how do we get a car on this island how do we get a car on this island

]]> By: RevGadget http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-165578 RevGadget Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:00:01 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-165578 Wow.... How is the food going to get there and where is it going to come from? Room service? The problem with ideas like this, is that all the refugees from global climate change are the third world peoples from low lying areas, such as Bangladesh. None of them would have the money to move onto one of these things. Wow…. How is the food going to get there and where is it going to come from? Room service? The problem with ideas like this, is that all the refugees from global climate change are the third world peoples from low lying areas, such as Bangladesh. None of them would have the money to move onto one of these things.

]]> By: picolee http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-144560 picolee Sat, 23 May 2009 16:46:46 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-144560 hmmm .... this one came first but all credit to pixelab who have done an astounding job on the copy!! hmmm …. this one came first

but all credit to pixelab who have done an astounding job on the copy!!

]]> By: Izaul V. http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-133195 Izaul V. Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:01:46 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-133195 I have more ideas about this project if you want know or you need help please let me know . This my E=mail. elizeous87@gmail.com i liked your idea is nice.. I have more ideas about this project if you want know or you need help please let me know . This my E=mail. elizeous87@gmail.com i liked your idea is nice..

]]> By: arbiforumnow http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-123012 arbiforumnow Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:11:30 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-123012 Beautiful! I'm imagining however that it will be grossly populated by exiled infamous corp execs on the run from abandoned land-bound laborers and stakeholders. Beautiful! I’m imagining however that it will be grossly populated by exiled infamous corp execs on the run from abandoned land-bound laborers and stakeholders.

]]> By: confiture http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-101874 confiture Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:46:05 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-101874 This project is one of the best projects I had ever seen concerning the futur. This architect has got very good ideas for a better world for Today. This project is one of the best projects I had ever seen concerning the futur. This architect has got very good ideas for a better world for Today.

]]> By: Corina61 http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-95187 Corina61 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:40:26 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-95187 This is so amazing. If you need someone to try it ou and live on it to try it out, sign me up. I'll be a ginnea pig. This is so amazing. If you need someone to try it ou and live on it to try it out, sign me up. I’ll be a ginnea pig.

]]> By: Miki http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-92075 Miki Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:06:46 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-92075 When this project goes forward, whenever there is a need of capable designers for product design and ergonomics, I would love to dedicate my life to a project like this. Please let me know. I can be easily contacted via inhabitat. When this project goes forward, whenever there is a need of capable designers for product design and ergonomics, I would love to dedicate my life to a project like this. Please let me know. I can be easily contacted via inhabitat.

]]> By: graupelschauer http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-90347 graupelschauer Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:31:09 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-90347 I can only support frances'comment. While it can certainly be fun for the designer to indulge in Modernist escapism, I can see no benefit for the wider community in this design. If the Great Ideas about zero emission are any good then it would certainly be commendable to think about ways to make them available to an as large number of people as possible. However it seems to fall to Dubai billionaires to indulge in zero-emission living - as if they were interested. And unfortunately Dubai billionaires do not constitute a sufficient percantage of the world's population to make an impact against global warming. And even for them, why float about in the sea? Just for fun of course. If you can make urban life independent of agricultural land resources, you would not have a shortage of space on land. And yes so much more, what about global warming causing the seas to atrophy, how are the inhabitants going to cope with cyanide-generating algae all around them. It can make one angry to witness these proposals implying that we would just be able to withdraw from the problems. I can only support frances’comment. While it can certainly be fun for the designer to indulge in Modernist escapism, I can see no benefit for the wider community in this design. If the Great Ideas about zero emission are any good then it would certainly be commendable to think about ways to make them available to an as large number of people as possible. However it seems to fall to Dubai billionaires to indulge in zero-emission living – as if they were interested. And unfortunately Dubai billionaires do not constitute a sufficient percantage of the world’s population to make an impact against global warming. And even for them, why float about in the sea? Just for fun of course. If you can make urban life independent of agricultural land resources, you would not have a shortage of space on land. And yes so much more, what about global warming causing the seas to atrophy, how are the inhabitants going to cope with cyanide-generating algae all around them. It can make one angry to witness these proposals implying that we would just be able to withdraw from the problems.

]]> By: marie http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-89795 marie Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:12:12 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-89795 Great I love it and hope to see the realisation of what to me seems clean and eco-friendly. Good for the rich, who by buying a nice place on that clean lilypad will be able to enjoy a live without pollution, take the helico to go to work and come back home their clean-lungs kids and wife. It is beautiful and also a wonderful project but unfortunatly their is a price for everything, and hard work usually pays off, you think governement will give the guy that invent it the money he deserved and then put refugees on it. All this prove that we are still extremelly hurt by the way the world is turning but also that their is still discrimination all over the world. People are ready for it but not the government who wants to put big time in their pockets, have fun with the lilypad, I will not be here but at least I can dream about it, it looks like heaven......M Great I love it and hope to see the realisation of what to me seems clean and eco-friendly. Good for the rich, who by buying a nice place on that clean lilypad will be able to enjoy a live without pollution, take the helico to go to work and come back home their clean-lungs kids and wife. It is beautiful and also a wonderful project but unfortunatly their is a price for everything, and hard work usually pays off, you think governement will give the guy that invent it the money he deserved and then put refugees on it. All this prove that we are still extremelly hurt by the way the world is turning but also that their is still discrimination all over the world. People are ready for it but not the government who wants to put big time in their pockets, have fun with the lilypad, I will not be here but at least I can dream about it, it looks like heaven……M

]]> By: sarah5121 http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-88506 sarah5121 Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:42:40 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-88506 This is amazing. If someone built this it would definitely be enough to make me wish I was a refugee. Of course the real things never look as good as the blue print pictures. =) This is amazing. If someone built this it would definitely be enough to make me wish I was a refugee. Of course the real things never look as good as the blue print pictures. =)

]]> By: lazaros http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-88067 lazaros Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:19:59 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-88067 to me is a very uptodate wonderful project.I'd say it's inspired by GOD.The architect may be a PROFET. same as NOAh.The way the world is going.nukes,climate change,anger,greed,fuel price,food price,biofuels,Powers,emerging powers,Religions,Lobies,NOT Trust,selfishnest,imorality.I've nearly lost faith in people.FLOATING CIYTES Hopefuly will save life in this planet.LIKE NOAH!! to me is a very uptodate wonderful project.I’d say it’s inspired by GOD.The architect may be a PROFET.
same as NOAh.The way the world is going.nukes,climate change,anger,greed,fuel price,food price,biofuels,Powers,emerging powers,Religions,Lobies,NOT Trust,selfishnest,imorality.I’ve nearly lost faith in people.FLOATING CIYTES Hopefuly will save life in this planet.LIKE NOAH!!

]]> By: hannes http://inhabitat.com/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/comment-page-1/#comment-87389 hannes Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:49:08 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2008/06/16/lilypad-floating-cities-in-the-age-of-global-warming/#comment-87389 Combine this idea with those of the late great Wolf Hilbertz and his Sea-cretion technic and you can build this for pennies with chickenwire and a few solar panels, don't need no billion dollar sponsor. Combine this idea with those of the late great Wolf Hilbertz and his Sea-cretion technic and you
can build this for pennies with chickenwire and a few solar panels, don’t need no billion dollar sponsor.

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