Comments on: POWER YOUR CAR WITH ALGAE: Algae Biocrude by LiveFuels http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/ Green design & eco innovation for a better world Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:48:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Luis Aponte http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-480419 Luis Aponte Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:09:59 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-480419 As my favorite form of alternative fuel, I would be very interested in taking a tour of this place in person. Is that a possibility? Sincerely, Luis Aponte, author of "Death of a Gas Guzzler: A Controversial Approach to Reducing Foreign Oil Dependence" As my favorite form of alternative fuel, I would be very interested in taking a tour of this place in person. Is that a possibility?

Sincerely,
Luis Aponte, author of “Death of a Gas Guzzler: A Controversial Approach to Reducing Foreign Oil Dependence”

]]> By: loomy1990 http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-384130 loomy1990 Mon, 28 May 2012 08:16:41 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-384130 I'm a Motorsport Engineering student and doing a project on the different fuels and I say that Algae is the way forward. It shows may qualities and benefits that will see the internal combustion engine keep on living rather than converting to electric motors which are crap anyway. People have been saying it's coming too late and that it will only be for a niche market but it isn't too late due to the fact that they still have to perfect these electric cars for the range that they last on one charge. Along with that can anybody see fully electric F1 cars, I can't, the whole point of motorsport is for the speed, sound and the smell of burning rubber. So my verdict: Electric BAD, Algae AWESOME!!!!! I’m a Motorsport Engineering student and doing a project on the different fuels and I say that Algae is the way forward. It shows may qualities and benefits that will see the internal combustion engine keep on living rather than converting to electric motors which are crap anyway. People have been saying it’s coming too late and that it will only be for a niche market but it isn’t too late due to the fact that they still have to perfect these electric cars for the range that they last on one charge. Along with that can anybody see fully electric F1 cars, I can’t, the whole point of motorsport is for the speed, sound and the smell of burning rubber.

So my verdict: Electric BAD, Algae AWESOME!!!!!

]]> By: Moghead88 http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-301260 Moghead88 Mon, 21 Feb 2011 02:49:00 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-301260 Hey- any of you interested in getting together and trying to actually do this? I am a business student and driven to see great things happen so if we can do this and make it work we can start our own algae fuel refinery and lobby to begin having our own algae stations everywhere in America. I'm from Pennsylvania hit me up at moghead88@gmail.com Hey- any of you interested in getting together and trying to actually do this? I am a business student and driven to see great things happen so if we can do this and make it work we can start our own algae fuel refinery and lobby to begin having our own algae stations everywhere in America. I’m from Pennsylvania hit me up at moghead88@gmail.com

]]> By: 5161440 http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-212541 5161440 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:36:50 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-212541 Hi, m afzaal and m bsc chemical engg. final yr student. m now a days working on thesis of production of bio-diesel from algae. i need ur help in this; can u pls send me the data regarding followin; - how many processes which are used in different industries to produce bio-diesel from algae including ur process discription.and which is most ecominal method in all of these? -2nd one is the total cost involed in process(including capital cost,algae production cost,oil process into algae cost,martket,advertising and texes) i wll be very thank full to u wll wait for ur response; God bless u; regards; afzaal 00923345104098 Hi,
m afzaal and m bsc chemical engg. final yr student.
m now a days working on thesis of production of bio-diesel from algae.
i need ur help in this;
can u pls send me the data regarding followin;
- how many processes which are used in different industries to produce bio-diesel from algae including ur process discription.and which is most ecominal method in all of these?
-2nd one is the total cost involed in process(including capital cost,algae production cost,oil process into algae cost,martket,advertising and texes)
i wll be very thank full to u
wll wait for ur response;
God bless u;
regards;
afzaal
00923345104098

]]> By: Eclipse Now http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-203426 Eclipse Now Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:26:42 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-203426 The internal combustion engine is just SO energy inefficient it is a crime to promote all the extra work algae production for cars would be. Scientific American recently ran a piece on getting off oil in 20 years. They concluded that with economic growth we'd need 16TW energy per year, but that would only be 11TW if most of our transport energy came from electric systems of transport! That's less than today's world energy consumption! ELECTRIC transport is the *most energy efficient, most "green"* form of transport energy possible, and trolley-bus systems are 5 times cheaper than trams, which also encourage New Urbanism which is even better! The internal combustion engine is just SO energy inefficient it is a crime to promote all the extra work algae production for cars would be. Scientific American recently ran a piece on getting off oil in 20 years. They concluded that with economic growth we’d need 16TW energy per year, but that would only be 11TW if most of our transport energy came from electric systems of transport! That’s less than today’s world energy consumption!

ELECTRIC transport is the *most energy efficient, most “green”* form of transport energy possible, and trolley-bus systems are 5 times cheaper than trams, which also encourage New Urbanism which is even better!

]]> By: Eclipse Now http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-203425 Eclipse Now Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:23:07 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-203425 Algae has severe nutrient, water, and refining problems that will limit its ability to compete with the Better Place electric car international battery-swap standards that are being installed in Canberra, San Francisco, Tokyo, and Israel. Algae is too little too late. It might one day help keep *some* of us flying in jets, but my bet for future transport is electric cars, fast rail for intercity transport (which is often quicker than airlines as well) and trolley-buses for inner city public transit. It will be interesting to see which form of ELECTRICITY runs most of our transport: Baseload renewables like solar thermal or CETO wavepower, or Generation 3 nuclear reactors that can 'eat' radiactive waste from old Gen1 & Gen2 reactors. (Nuclear waste from older reactors becomes a FUEL RESOURCE that could power the WHOLE WORLD's energy needs for 700 years! 'Burning' it again in Gen3 reactors ends up making the waste so hot it safe within 500 years after use. No storing fuel for 100 thousand years!) So algae fuel will probably be a niche energy market grown from local county sewerage waste waters and nutrients, in local areas that will supply local fuels for what remains of the airline industry in a post peak-oil world. This will require some sort of county-planning waste water to energy corporation venture, but such things will no doubt be worked out in a big hurry in a post-peak world of $350 dollar a barrel oil. Algae has severe nutrient, water, and refining problems that will limit its ability to compete with the Better Place electric car international battery-swap standards that are being installed in Canberra, San Francisco, Tokyo, and Israel.

Algae is too little too late. It might one day help keep *some* of us flying in jets, but my bet for future transport is electric cars, fast rail for intercity transport (which is often quicker than airlines as well) and trolley-buses for inner city public transit.

It will be interesting to see which form of ELECTRICITY runs most of our transport: Baseload renewables like solar thermal or CETO wavepower, or Generation 3 nuclear reactors that can ‘eat’ radiactive waste from old Gen1 & Gen2 reactors. (Nuclear waste from older reactors becomes a FUEL RESOURCE that could power the WHOLE WORLD’s energy needs for 700 years! ‘Burning’ it again in Gen3 reactors ends up making the waste so hot it safe within 500 years after use. No storing fuel for 100 thousand years!)

So algae fuel will probably be a niche energy market grown from local county sewerage waste waters and nutrients, in local areas that will supply local fuels for what remains of the airline industry in a post peak-oil world. This will require some sort of county-planning waste water to energy corporation venture, but such things will no doubt be worked out in a big hurry in a post-peak world of $350 dollar a barrel oil.

]]> By: JocsanAxel http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-176394 JocsanAxel Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:45:12 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-176394 Hi! I`m marine biology also! from BCS. MX First, you need, know what kinds of species produce in body percentage more of fats! Isolate and cultivate them! in ideal conditions! (is different for each organism) Then exist different types of methods for extraction and process these fats! For people that usually work with microalgae is easy know this! Lucky! Bye! More doubts! negaprion21@gmail.com Hi! I`m marine biology also! from BCS. MX
First, you need, know what kinds of species produce in body percentage more of fats!
Isolate and cultivate them! in ideal conditions! (is different for each organism)
Then exist different types of methods for extraction and process these fats!

For people that usually work with microalgae is easy know this!
Lucky! Bye!

More doubts!
negaprion21@gmail.com

]]> By: emilio lopez http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-112700 emilio lopez Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:53:03 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-112700 hello: i am student biology and i want know how many types of species may cause biodisel? hello: i am student biology and i want know how many types of species may cause biodisel?

]]> By: catmichelle http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-110354 catmichelle Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:48:51 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-110354 im still confused about the CO2 issue i know it eats alot of CO2 during its growth but what about its conversion to oil isnt it still releasing CO2 and what its use in cars doesnt it require something to be done to the car before it can be used and can the fuel operate at different temperatures im still confused about the CO2 issue
i know it eats alot of CO2 during its growth
but what about its conversion to oil isnt it still releasing CO2
and what its use in cars
doesnt it require something to be done to the car before it can be used and can the fuel operate at different temperatures

]]> By: michel http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-107997 michel Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:13:32 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-107997 I think that <a href="http://www.circlebio.com/algae_biodiesel_photobioreactors.htm" rel="nofollow">algae</a> will be the way to go with regards to alternative fuels. I think that algae will be the way to go with regards to alternative fuels.

]]> By: puffin101 http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-80827 puffin101 Thu, 08 May 2008 15:26:14 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-80827 A conceptual design to produce about 130 gal. a month could use rather primitive manual methods and still provide most to the needs for transportation for a family. If done as an open source project a lot of hands on research would soon refine and improve the process. This blog could be the spark for such a group effort. A conceptual design to produce about 130 gal. a month could use rather primitive manual methods and still provide most to the needs for transportation for a family. If done as an open source project a lot of hands on research would soon refine and improve the process. This blog could be the spark for such a group effort.

]]> By: b cole http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-73273 b cole Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:28:11 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-73273 National Algae Association Algae: The Next Biofuel Inaugural Algae Commercialization Business Plan and Networking Forum April 10, 2008 www.nationalalgaeassociation.com National Algae Association

Algae: The Next Biofuel

Inaugural

Algae Commercialization
Business Plan and Networking Forum

April 10, 2008

http://www.nationalalgaeassociation.com

]]> By: randy http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-73068 randy Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:47:51 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-73068 The ideal solution would be to develope an algae that can both produce fuel and clean and process sewage and wastewater. Don't see why it can't be done. The ideal solution would be to develope an algae that can both produce fuel and clean and process sewage and wastewater. Don’t see why it can’t be done.

]]> By: bcohen http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-68847 bcohen Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:31:56 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-68847 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE National Algae Association 4747 Research Forest Dr., Suite 180 The Woodlands, Texas 77381 inquiries@nationalalgaeassociation.com National Algae Association, The Woodlands, Texas (February 1, 2008) Announces the opening of its new headquarters serving all areas of the Algae industry. Algae researchers and producers can come together to exchange ideas concerning the latest developments in Algae production and the products made from Algae. The Association provides an open exchange forum for the publishing of technical papers and the announcement of the results of research into the latest Algae related technologies. The Association also supports discussion and development of new markets that take advantage of the tremendous potential of Algae, not only as a source of renewable energy, but also in the exploration and development of other markets for algae products, such as cosmetics, pharmaceuticals and fertilizers. For more information contact: inquiries@nationalalgaeassociation.com or 936.321.1125 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

National Algae Association
4747 Research Forest Dr., Suite 180
The Woodlands, Texas 77381
inquiries@nationalalgaeassociation.com

National Algae Association, The Woodlands, Texas
(February 1, 2008)

Announces the opening of its new headquarters serving all areas of the Algae industry.

Algae researchers and producers can come together to exchange ideas concerning the latest developments in Algae production and the products made from Algae. The Association provides an open exchange forum for the publishing of technical papers and the announcement of the results of research into the latest Algae related technologies. The Association also supports discussion and development of new markets that take advantage of the tremendous potential of Algae, not only as a source of renewable energy, but also in the exploration and development of other markets for algae products, such as cosmetics, pharmaceuticals and fertilizers.

For more information contact: inquiries@nationalalgaeassociation.com or 936.321.1125

]]> By: Harry http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-65586 Harry Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:26:51 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-65586 Pump the sunlight through fiberoptics and build closed system bioreactors that go skyward instead of spread out across the land. Closed bioreactors keep unwanted species from outcompeting the designer algae. Pump the sunlight through fiberoptics and build closed system bioreactors that go skyward instead of spread out across the land. Closed bioreactors keep unwanted species from outcompeting the designer algae.

]]> By: Laak http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-61555 Laak Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:47:22 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-61555 This would be a great system for alternative energy on all scales, which is what makes it could make it powerful. A module that can be built on huge industrial level, and in the home grown backyard market is really what has potential. how exactly do the last few steps work? This would be a great system for alternative energy on all scales, which is what makes it could make it powerful.
A module that can be built on huge industrial level, and in the home grown backyard market is really what has potential.

how exactly do the last few steps work?

]]> By: Biofuels a Threat to Humanity? - Page 2 - Xtreme CPU http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-57924 Biofuels a Threat to Humanity? - Page 2 - Xtreme CPU Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:59:12 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-57924 [...] no sugar content which is what makes the ethanol although you could use algae and get biodiesel. Inhabitat » POWER YOUR CAR WITH ALGAE: Algae Biocrude by LiveFuels Of course you could use the algae to scrub the CO2 from power plant exhausts before you make your [...]

]]> By: Raja Roux http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-57619 Raja Roux Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:09:49 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-57619 I remember, sometime in the 80's I think, a 4/6 inch spiral transparent tube wound 6/8 foot high and 4/6 foot diameter, destined for the 'back yard' market. A slow flow through the tube for growth then the mature algae is dried and powdered and burned in the engine as a fine powder. Maybe, instead of powder, we could run a distiller in the centre. Oops, it's already way too complicated for my back yard! I remember, sometime in the 80′s I think, a 4/6 inch spiral transparent tube wound 6/8 foot high and 4/6 foot diameter, destined for the ‘back yard’ market. A slow flow through the tube for growth then the mature algae is dried and powdered and burned in the engine as a fine powder. Maybe, instead of powder, we could run a distiller in the centre. Oops, it’s already way too complicated for my back yard!

]]> By: Wineman http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-57436 Wineman Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:49:52 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-57436 Raja Roux Says: Who is going to produce the first DIY kit for my back yard? They do... $60,000and you can have the small one delivered next month. Some assembly required. Raja Roux Says:
Who is going to produce the first DIY kit for my back yard?

They do… $60,000and you can have the small one delivered next month. Some assembly required.

]]> By: nathan http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/comment-page-1/#comment-57347 nathan Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:55:17 +0000 http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/22/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/#comment-57347 <blockquote>Raja Roux Says: Who is going to produce the first DIY kit for my back yard?</blockquote> If only that were true. Someone has to get the early subsidies to really research it, and those will mostly go to the research arms of larger companies. Those same companies are the ones currently accepting subsidies so that they can make a profit on the (as of yet) economically non-viable ethanol and soy-diesel they are producing. They will perfect the system, figure out how to make it viable, and begin producing it on a large scale. They won't bother to stop accepting subsidies to help their own bottom line. Most of us who have room for this in our backyards won't have the capital to get started, and the distribution channels will already be owned by the major corporate producers. The worst part of this whole thing? The companies who are getting these subsidies and starting biofuel production facilities are subsidiaries of the "Big Oil" companies. (They no longer call themselves Oil companies; they are Energy companies now.) They don't care if you burn biofuel instead of oil, they make money either way. They might even make more. And they don't care if farmland is lost to producing food that the world needs, because they are getting richer.

Raja Roux Says:
Who is going to produce the first DIY kit for my back yard?

If only that were true. Someone has to get the early subsidies to really research it, and those will mostly go to the research arms of larger companies. Those same companies are the ones currently accepting subsidies so that they can make a profit on the (as of yet) economically non-viable ethanol and soy-diesel they are producing. They will perfect the system, figure out how to make it viable, and begin producing it on a large scale. They won’t bother to stop accepting subsidies to help their own bottom line. Most of us who have room for this in our backyards won’t have the capital to get started, and the distribution channels will already be owned by the major corporate producers.

The worst part of this whole thing? The companies who are getting these subsidies and starting biofuel production facilities are subsidiaries of the “Big Oil” companies. (They no longer call themselves Oil companies; they are Energy companies now.) They don’t care if you burn biofuel instead of oil, they make money either way. They might even make more. And they don’t care if farmland is lost to producing food that the world needs, because they are getting richer.

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