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	<title>Comments on: 80% Cheaper Solar Cells Switch Gold For Nickel</title>
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		<title>By: river1221</title>
		<link>http://inhabitat.com/super-cheap-solar-cells-switch-gold-for-nickel/comment-page-1/#comment-270662</link>
		<dc:creator>river1221</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 01:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@4thofjulyguy (and RBE Derick): let&#039;s do it!  (start a movement)
There is lots of motion in the right direction (350.org, for example), but the transformation needs to be more widespread...
I&#039;ve been giving out a list of links to scary articles and positive websites, hoping to generate greater involvement.  Glad to see the techies are keeping up the good work!  But people have to take up the cause! Have you heard of the transition movement? eg transitioninaction.net?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@4thofjulyguy (and RBE Derick): let&#8217;s do it!  (start a movement)<br />
There is lots of motion in the right direction (350.org, for example), but the transformation needs to be more widespread&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve been giving out a list of links to scary articles and positive websites, hoping to generate greater involvement.  Glad to see the techies are keeping up the good work!  But people have to take up the cause! Have you heard of the transition movement? eg transitioninaction.net?</p>
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		<title>By: kieranmullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>kieranmullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 17:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apex01 - Unfortunately  we can\\\&#039;t just plug into a tree. We have to burn coal which we have an abundance of in the USA, natural gas or nuclear. We know already that electricity is more efficient. That is why the use it in all US trains.  Diesel Electric motors.  However the Chinese have  stranglehold on the resources required to produce solar (google rare earth metals China) 

It would be best to get people to consume less of course, but I don\\\&#039;t see that happening either.

Also I live in Oregon so we would only get benefits from Solar maybe 3 months of the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apex01 &#8211; Unfortunately  we can\\\&#8217;t just plug into a tree. We have to burn coal which we have an abundance of in the USA, natural gas or nuclear. We know already that electricity is more efficient. That is why the use it in all US trains.  Diesel Electric motors.  However the Chinese have  stranglehold on the resources required to produce solar (google rare earth metals China) </p>
<p>It would be best to get people to consume less of course, but I don\\\&#8217;t see that happening either.</p>
<p>Also I live in Oregon so we would only get benefits from Solar maybe 3 months of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: apex01</title>
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		<dc:creator>apex01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electricity is more efficient for transportation than gasoline per a used hydrocarbon(either derived from coal or gasoline).  You get more bang for your buck using electricity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electricity is more efficient for transportation than gasoline per a used hydrocarbon(either derived from coal or gasoline).  You get more bang for your buck using electricity.</p>
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		<title>By: beboboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>beboboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 04:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RBE &amp; 4ofjulyguy &amp; gern

You guys are funny. &#039;Off the grid&#039; is a situation that always needs some high tech equipment. It is not a &#039;back the good old days&#039; kind of thing. For a small community it is possible to go off the grid, but society as a whole can not survive off the grid. Anyone who has lived with a poor brownout and blackout prone grid will agree. Even the Internet can not survive &#039;off the grid.&#039; Can you imagine a restaurant running off the grid? What about those power hungry freezers? Do you think an auto repair shop can lift cars on solar powered hydrolic cylinder lifts? How about solar powered buses, trains, and planes?

Thinking about your own home is fine. But face reality. Society needs a lot of energy, and unless we get blown back to the stone age, it is going to need only more.

What we need is clean dependable energy, and a lot of it. For example electric cars are great, but if they are getting their overnight charge from burning coal, then what&#039;s the benefit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RBE &amp; 4ofjulyguy &amp; gern</p>
<p>You guys are funny. &#8216;Off the grid&#8217; is a situation that always needs some high tech equipment. It is not a &#8216;back the good old days&#8217; kind of thing. For a small community it is possible to go off the grid, but society as a whole can not survive off the grid. Anyone who has lived with a poor brownout and blackout prone grid will agree. Even the Internet can not survive &#8216;off the grid.&#8217; Can you imagine a restaurant running off the grid? What about those power hungry freezers? Do you think an auto repair shop can lift cars on solar powered hydrolic cylinder lifts? How about solar powered buses, trains, and planes?</p>
<p>Thinking about your own home is fine. But face reality. Society needs a lot of energy, and unless we get blown back to the stone age, it is going to need only more.</p>
<p>What we need is clean dependable energy, and a lot of it. For example electric cars are great, but if they are getting their overnight charge from burning coal, then what&#8217;s the benefit?</p>
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		<title>By: 4ofjulyguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>4ofjulyguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RBE Derick

My thoughts exactly...want to start a movement?</description>
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<p>My thoughts exactly&#8230;want to start a movement?</p>
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		<title>By: gern</title>
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		<dc:creator>gern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever it takes to screw the oil companies and utilities I&#039;m all for it. Renewable energy will take us all off the grid as it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever it takes to screw the oil companies and utilities I&#8217;m all for it. Renewable energy will take us all off the grid as it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: RBE Derick</title>
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		<dc:creator>RBE Derick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes ofcoarse Canada has patent laws, but how long do you think the world can sustain the dog eat dog, cards-to-our-chest behavior of our species?  We&#039;re completely brainwashed into believing competition is a given and we must continue to &#039;beat out&#039; the next nation and keep things to ourselves.  The only ones benefitting from this behaviour have been large corporations and they have been doing a sound job of mucking up our planet.  Has anyone ever noticed we are fast running out of time and that allowing corporate stupidity and greed to dominate our thinking is at the root cause?  We need to understand real fast that the earth is ONE ORGANISM and since we have grown to such large numbers as a species, cannot maintain being at war with ourselves.  We have to move away from the &#039;monetary profits at all cost&#039; mentality if we have any hope of survival on this planet. Yes, imagine that, we need to drop greedy profit ideals entirely, we need to think very seriously about getting rid of phony, restrictive, ego-fostering monetary systems entirely if we are going to have a hope in hell of survival as a species.  

Too much of a dramatic shift...?  At the rate we have been going, how much time do you think we have left on this planet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes ofcoarse Canada has patent laws, but how long do you think the world can sustain the dog eat dog, cards-to-our-chest behavior of our species?  We&#8217;re completely brainwashed into believing competition is a given and we must continue to &#8216;beat out&#8217; the next nation and keep things to ourselves.  The only ones benefitting from this behaviour have been large corporations and they have been doing a sound job of mucking up our planet.  Has anyone ever noticed we are fast running out of time and that allowing corporate stupidity and greed to dominate our thinking is at the root cause?  We need to understand real fast that the earth is ONE ORGANISM and since we have grown to such large numbers as a species, cannot maintain being at war with ourselves.  We have to move away from the &#8216;monetary profits at all cost&#8217; mentality if we have any hope of survival on this planet. Yes, imagine that, we need to drop greedy profit ideals entirely, we need to think very seriously about getting rid of phony, restrictive, ego-fostering monetary systems entirely if we are going to have a hope in hell of survival as a species.  </p>
<p>Too much of a dramatic shift&#8230;?  At the rate we have been going, how much time do you think we have left on this planet?</p>
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		<title>By: wackyxaky</title>
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		<dc:creator>wackyxaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stories like this pop up every 4-6 months promising dramatic reduction in PV prices. . .  Why not report when I can literally buy from a real company an actual consumer PV panel that is significantly cheaper?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stories like this pop up every 4-6 months promising dramatic reduction in PV prices. . .  Why not report when I can literally buy from a real company an actual consumer PV panel that is significantly cheaper?</p>
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		<title>By: kieranmullen</title>
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		<dc:creator>kieranmullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Canada have a patent system? perhaps the school can patent the idea and lease it to North American company&#039;s?  The Chinese have no respect for any law legal, enviromental etc... so any intellectual property sent to China is as good as gone. Reason why Intel &amp; other major microchips are not made over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Canada have a patent system? perhaps the school can patent the idea and lease it to North American company&#8217;s?  The Chinese have no respect for any law legal, enviromental etc&#8230; so any intellectual property sent to China is as good as gone. Reason why Intel &amp; other major microchips are not made over there.</p>
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